DVDRB + AQE Guidelines

[SAPSTAR]

As requested by many people, here are some guidelines for DVDRB+AQE (Multipass):

• Encoder Priority : Doesn't matter...AQE already decreases its priority in order to be less hard on the on going processes
• Multiple Encoder processes  : it must be unchecked AQE is already multithreaded by itself.
• CCE Settings : Choose CCE SP
• CCE Customized settings : Change the number of passes to 3 or 4 no more no less
• OPV is not recommended for those who are looking for quality over speed and precision
• Advanced Options :

• No AVS Options is compulsory
• No Matrix is to be set, you could but it's useless AQE will do everything for you

[li]CCEAQM=1 should be added to Rebuilder.ini, it will be taken into account only if you're using the pro version of DVDRB[/li]
[li]If your average bitrate is above 4000-4500kbps, you should use CCE or HC they are faster than AQE and AQE was made to give good results at low bitrates...It would be a waste of time to use it at high bitrates[/li] EDIT : No more true after 0.33.0.3
[/list]

One last thing...AQE is an encoder, it's piloted by DVDRB. See DVDRB as a very smart robot which will start different encodes and rebuild the DVD with those encodes...

I think it's a first good start for a guidelines....I'm open to answer other questions in this thread about the usage of DVDRB+AQE in Multipass. I will create some other threads for DVDRB+AQE (OPV) and DIKO+AQE.....

[BR7]

Thanks  SAPSTAR

[danpos]

Well done, Jérôme!

See ya,

[techreactor]

thanks, you can also add that tip for enabling QmatOp into RB free.

[SAPSTAR]

thanks, you can also add that tip for enabling QmatOp into RB free.

He is right, there is a way to allow the usage of QMatOp with DVDRB free. You have to run a PREPARE step, then edit the REBUILDER.ECL file and replace all the adjust_q_matrix=0 by adjust_q_matrix=1.....then press REBUILD.
But I would highly recommend to buy the DVDRB Pro, it's a fantastic program, it really worth it!!!

[techreactor]

Also this might help some ppl.

I'm to release a new version soon because I noticed a slight loss of quality since I increased the default speed of QMatOp, since I'm always in favor of quality over time, I will decrease it...it will be slightly slower but it will be better.

@SAPSTAR, can I give a small suggestion on this.

Would it be possible to put a parameter (perhaps in the INI), so that the end user can choose between your encoders best speed and best Quality. lets say for eg 1......5 wherein 1 is highest Quality and 5 is Best Speed.

This way the users who prefer Speed to quality will set it to 5 and those who prefer quality will set it to 1.

Just a flexibility you can give to your endusers

thanks,

It's already there but I increased the default value in a previous version, and for my taste it would be better to make it a little bit slower...

tc_ref_frm : QMatOp speed . Default value : 0 (slowest) bigger number means faster and less accurate.(2 gave me goods results (speed/quality))

This has to be done in the rebuilder.ecl after the "Prepare" phase of DVD-RB.

[techreactor]

@SAPSTAR,

Can you also put your opinion/advise here on when to use/activate the QmatOp feature and how does it benefit. (for low bitrate/high bitrate , Low quality/High quality etc ).

QmatOp does increase the encoding time, so this would help.

[SAPSTAR]

@SAPSTAR,

Can you also put your opinion/advise here on when to use/activate the QmatOp feature and how does it benefit. (for low bitrate/high bitrate , Low quality/High quality etc ).

QmatOp does increase the encoding time, so this would help.

If you are not aimed at encoding quickly, I would say always turn QMatOP on.
Now if you really wants to have a compromise between speed and quality, I would say that below 4000kbps (for a 720*480 res) you should turn it on and off above.....

[techreactor]

[li]No Matrix is to be set, you could but it's useless AQE will do everything for you[/li]

Are you tryign to say, that even if I choose the Notch matrix for better compression, AutoQmatenc will disregard it and use its own matrix, if yes, whats the crux behind it.

[SAPSTAR]

[li]No Matrix is to be set, you could but it's useless AQE will do everything for you[/li]

Are you tryign to say, that even if I choose the Notch matrix for better compression, AutoQmatenc will disregard it and use its own matrix, if yes, whats the crux behind it.

I just say that it's not necessary to set a matrix...especially if QMatOp is on...if QMatOp is off and you set a matrix, it will be used.

[HOND]

He sapstar ,
First of all i want to thank you for this amazing encoder ! , I have still some problems with it , but the encodes who worked were truly amazing !

My problem :
I am using DVD rebuilder latest pro version 1.09.3
It encodes fine , till it arrives at Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9 , it just stops and gives errors :

Error dvd rebuilder window
Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9
   -- V01000900001010 no .M2V, retrying.
 - Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9
   -- V01000900001010 no .M2V, retrying.
 - Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9
- Failed to create M2V: V01000900001010
- The encoder doesn't appear functional.
- Aborting...

avs for file V01000900001010.avs

[Mon May 29 16:57:21 2006] - AutoQMatEnc Version 0, 33, 0, 4
[Mon May 29 16:57:21 2006] - AutoBias : Bias selected : 18
[Mon May 29 16:57:24 2006] - AutoQMatEnc Version 0, 33, 0, 4
[Mon May 29 16:57:24 2006] - AutoBias : Bias selected : 18
[Mon May 29 16:57:27 2006] - AutoQMatEnc Version 0, 33, 0, 4
[Mon May 29 16:57:27 2006] - AutoBias : Bias selected : 18
[Mon May 29 16:57:51 2006] - AutoQMatEnc Version 0, 33, 0, 4
[Mon May 29 16:57:51 2006] - AutoBias : Bias selected : 18
[Mon May 29 16:57:55 2006] - AutoQMatEnc Version 0, 33, 0, 4
[Mon May 29 16:57:55 2006] - AutoBias : Bias selected : 18
[Mon May 29 16:57:58 2006] - AutoQMatEnc Version 0, 33, 0, 4
[Mon May 29 16:57:58 2006] - AutoBias : Bias selected : 18
AutoQMatEnc Version 0, 32, 1, 0
Width : 720 ; Height : 576 ; Bitrate Equivalent : 1464999
QMatOp feature enabled.
Automatic Multithread mode enabled.
Given your hardware 2 threads will be used
Ultra Low Bitrate mode engaged
Pass 1/3
Error: 'F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\V01000900001010.avs' didn't return a video clip.
Error opening F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\V01000900001010.avs
Final Result :
Expected size : 0 ; Real Size : 0 ; Error : -1.$ %
Total time elapsed : 0 seconds
AutoQMatEnc Version 0, 32, 1, 0
Width : 720 ; Height : 576 ; Bitrate Equivalent : 1464999
QMatOp feature enabled.
Automatic Multithread mode enabled.
Given your hardware 2 threads will be used
Ultra Low Bitrate mode engaged
Pass 1/3
Error: 'F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\V01000900001010.avs' didn't return a video clip.
Error opening F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\V01000900001010.avs
Final Result :
Expected size : 0 ; Real Size : 0 ; Error : -1.$ %
Total time elapsed : 1 seconds
AutoQMatEnc Version 0, 32, 1, 0
Width : 720 ; Height : 576 ; Bitrate Equivalent : 1464999
QMatOp feature enabled.
Automatic Multithread mode enabled.
Given your hardware 2 threads will be used
Ultra Low Bitrate mode engaged
Pass 1/3
Error: 'F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\V01000900001010.avs' didn't return a video clip.
Error opening F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\V01000900001010.avs
Final Result :
Expected size : 0 ; Real Size : 0 ; Error : -1.$ %
Total time elapsed : 0 seconds

Wich Aqe version do I used
First of all 0.32 B
En then I tried to replace the current ( path > program files/autoqenc/) file
with other betas  , but that produced an window crash ( not the memory crash)

rebuilder.ini
[Paths]
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll
Working=F:\TEMP\
Output=F:\DVD\
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\AutoQMatEnc\AutoQMatEnc.exe
Source=F:\VIDEO_TS\
[Options]
CCE=1
SkinVersion=12
Skin=Teck Original
AudioDub=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=0
QuEncodeType=0
iDCT=0
GOP=0
DCPrec=0
MainMatrix=Encoder Default
LowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
VLowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ExtraMatrix=Same as Main Feature
HC_Quality=1
ProCoder_Quality=4
ReduceOpt=0
DVD_Label=DVD-VIDEO
DVD_Name=DVD-VIDEO.ISO
AdditionalOutput=1
MovieOnly=0
HalfD1=0000
Convert_16_9=0000
DisableInterlace=0000
ConvertToYUY2=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=1
RemoveDC=0
NoWarn=1
Completed=15
EncoderPriority=0
TargetSizeMode=0
AutoQMatAQM=1
Mode=6
[Audio]
Remapping=
Selected=111
[Subpictures]
Selected=111
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[AutoQMatOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=3

did I try reinstalling evertything?
yes  same error

avisynt ?
Avisynth_256

Can you help me find out what I did wrong , or how I can solve this error ?
I would really like keep using you encoder !

[SAPSTAR]

@HOND : Rather simple ....you have to install the DLLs coming with the 0.33.0.3 version. beta version are "incremental". It is assumed that you installed a reg version and then all the beta versions. So in your case, you just have to download the 0.33.0.3. Uncompress it in your AQE dir, then uncompress 0.33.0.5.

[HOND]

thanks for your fast reply

I did what you requested..  Still the same error ,
in the avs file :
Pass 1/3 - Bitrate : 1758000
[Mon May 29 18:58:23 2006] - Error: 'F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\V01000900001010.avs' didn't return a video clip.
[Mon May 29 18:58:23 2006] - Error opening F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\V01000900001010.avs
[Mon May 29 18:58:23 2006] - Final Result :
[Mon May 29 18:58:23 2006] - Expected size : 0 ; Real Size : 0 ; Error : -1.$ %
[Mon May 29 18:58:23 2006] - Total time elapsed : 0 seconds

[SAPSTAR]

First check, that the AVS is playable....I mean are you able to play the AVS in any media player. If not, check your prepare phase or DVDRB installation. If yes, I guess it's an avisynth pb.

[HOND]

THere is something strange about the specific avs..  It is 0kb, the rest is 1kb...
I will redo the prepare fase , let's see if the avs remains 0kb...

I will let you know if the filesize remains 0kb..